Inside Sources
The all-new Inside Sources. Hosted by Greg Skordas and Dr. Holly Richardson, two well-known voices in Utah’s legal and political circles.
Episodes
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Inside Sources Full Show July 28th, 2026: July heat continues: record-breaking lows, fires continue to pop up
Calls for Congress to forego August recess and pass SAVE America Act instead
Congress is about to head out from Washington, D.C. for about a month, but Utah's own Senator Mike Lee says members of Congress should forego the trip back home to meet with constituents and pass the SAVE America Act instead. The problem is that the bill still doesn't have the votes, even among Republicans. So why's Senator Lee pushing for this move? Deseret News Congressional Correspondent Cami Mondeaux explains the Senator's recent moves.
- WSJ: Major companies hiring retired CEOs to run their business
A new article in the Wall Street Journal says more and more companies are bringing older CEOs out of retirement to run major corporations again. These aren't younger guys who retired early; they're generally men older than 70. Cracker Barrel, Boeing, and Verizon are just a few of the latest companies to go this route. Is that wise? Could it jade younger people who are already struggling to get a foot in the door? Millennial and Inside Sources Executive Producer Andy Cupp shares his thoughts.
- Ask the Attorney: Brian Kohberger wants to withdraw guilty plea
At what point is it too late to take back a guilty plea? The man accused of killing four students from the University of Idaho in 2022 is now trying to take back his guilty plea and go to trial. Brian Kohberger is petitioning a judge to withdraw his earlier guilty plea, saying he wants this to go to trial now instead. What would have changed Kohberger's mind, and it is a smart move? KSL Legal Analyst Greg Skordas breaks it down.
- Pres. Trump asks SCOTUS to take up executive order on mail-in voting
The fight from the Trump Administration against mail-in voting continues today. Over the weekend, an appeals court sided against the President, saying he's not allow to impose restrictions on mail-in voting. Now, President Trump is taking that fight to the United States Supreme Court. Greg and Jim are both skeptical of a win for the administration; they explain why.
- The ongoing effects of gambling on America's young people
It can sometimes feel a little weird to talk about gambling in a state like Utah, where we're not allowed to gamble. But that doesn't mean people don't find ways around it. And more and more, we're seeing the negative effects of gambling -- how it can really impact a person and our communities. Jay Evensen, Opinion Editor at the Deseret News has a new piece examining how gambling can affect young people; he joins the show to share his thoughts.
- 98 days to go until the midterm election
Gambling might not be allowed in Utah, but that doesn't mean we can't make some predictions on the upcoming midterm elections. With less than 100 days to go until folks cast their ballots around the country, Greg and Jim discuss the chances Democrats have to regain the House and/or the Senate.
- More homebuyers looking at wildfire risk when purchasing a new house
When buying a home, people tend to look at the number of bedrooms and bathrooms, the size of the yard, and the amenities like a hot tub, den, or a double oven. And now, more and more people are also looking at wildfires when shopping for a new place to live. Is this just our new reality with warmer temperatures and a hotter climate?
- Social: Fly 24 hours straight or take a few layovers?
If you had to travel to the other side of the world -- say from Europe to Australia -- would you rather take a single nonstop flight or split it up with a layover or two? Overnight, plane maker Airbus and Qantas Airways broke a world record in an initiative called "Project Sunrise." In a journey lasting 24 hours and 24 minutes, a brand new plane flew from southern France to southeast Australia. Inside Sources Executive Producer and self-proclaimed plane nerd Andy Cupp has the story; Greg and Jim give their thoughts on the option.
- Utah ranked as number one state in the nation… for the 4th year in a row
Utah's been ranked the number one state in the nation for the 4th year in a row. But it's not all sunshine and roses and unicorns -- we come in near the very bottom of the list in one category: natural environment. Greg Skordas and Jim Bennett go through some of the rankings and why U.S. News and World Report says the Beehive State is the best in the country.
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Utah ranked as number one state in the nation… for the 4th year in a row
Utah's been ranked the number one state in the nation for the 4th year in a row. But it's not all sunshine and roses and unicorns -- we come in near the very bottom of the list in one category: natural environment. Greg Skordas and Jim Bennett go through some of the rankings and why U.S. News and World Report says the Beehive State is the best in the country.
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Social: Fly 24 hours straight or take a few layovers?
If you had to travel to the other side of the world -- say from Europe to Australia -- would you rather take a single nonstop flight or split it up with a layover or two? Overnight, plane maker Airbus and Qantas Airways broke a world record in an initiative called "Project Sunrise." In a journey lasting 24 hours and 24 minutes, a brand new plane flew from southern France to southeast Australia. Inside Sources Executive Producer and self-proclaimed plane nerd Andy Cupp has the story; Greg and Jim give their thoughts on the option.
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More homebuyers looking at wildfire risk when purchasing a new house
When buying a home, people tend to look at the number of bedrooms and bathrooms, the size of the yard, and the amenities like a hot tub, den, or a double oven. And now, more and more people are also looking at wildfires when shopping for a new place to live. Is this just our new reality with warmer temperatures and a hotter climate?
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98 days to go until the midterm election
Gambling might not be allowed in Utah, but that doesn't mean we can't make some predictions on the upcoming midterm elections. With less than 100 days to go until folks cast their ballots around the country, Greg and Jim discuss the chances Democrats have to regain the House and/or the Senate.
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The ongoing effects of gambling on America's young people
It can sometimes feel a little weird to talk about gambling in a state like Utah, where we're not allowed to gamble. But that doesn't mean people don't find ways around it. And more and more, we're seeing the negative effects of gambling -- how it can really impact a person and our communities. Jay Evensen, Opinion Editor at the Deseret News has a new piece examining how gambling can affect young people; he joins the show to share his thoughts.
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Pres. Trump asks SCOTUS to take up executive order on mail-in voting
The fight from the Trump Administration against mail-in voting continues today. Over the weekend, an appeals court sided against the President, saying he's not allow to impose restrictions on mail-in voting. Now, President Trump is taking that fight to the United States Supreme Court. Greg and Jim are both skeptical of a win for the administration; they explain why.
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Ask the Attorney: Brian Kohberger wants to withdraw guilty plea
At what point is it too late to take back a guilty plea? The man accused of killing four students from the University of Idaho in 2022 is now trying to take back his guilty plea and go to trial. Brian Kohberger is petitioning a judge to withdraw his earlier guilty plea, saying he wants this to go to trial now instead. What would have changed Kohberger's mind, and it is a smart move? KSL Legal Analyst Greg Skordas breaks it down.
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WSJ: Major companies hiring retired CEOs to run their business
A new article in the Wall Street Journal says more and more companies are bringing older CEOs out of retirement to run major corporations again. These aren't younger guys who retired early; they're generally men older than 70. Cracker Barrel, Boeing, and Verizon are just a few of the latest companies to go this route. Is that wise? Could it jade younger people who are already struggling to get a foot in the door? Millennial and Inside Sources Executive Producer Andy Cupp shares his thoughts.
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Calls for Congress to forego August recess and pass SAVE America Act instead
Congress is about to head out from Washington, D.C. for about a month, but Utah's own Senator Mike Lee says members of Congress should forego the trip back home to meet with constituents and pass the SAVE America Act instead. The problem is that the bill still doesn't have the votes, even among Republicans. So why's Senator Lee pushing for this move? Deseret News Congressional Correspondent Cami Mondeaux explains the Senator's recent moves.
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July heat continues: record-breaking lows, fires continue to pop up
The heat continues and the poor sleep does too -- it's just too hot at night. We thought we broke a record yesterday for the highest low temperature ever recorded. Turns out by the end of the day, we only matched it -- 82 degrees. The heat is causing issues for AC units around the area, and fires aren't helping things either. Britt Johnson, KSL NewsRadio reporter and Weber County resident joins Greg and Jim to describe a frightening situation in her own neighborhood yesterday, when homes were evacuated due to a fast-moving brush fire.
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Inside Sources Full Show July 27th, 2026:The ADA at 36: What's better, what's broken, and what's next for disability rights
- TPS for Haiti expires today — what it means for 300,000+ immigrantsJim Bennett co-hosts with Greg Skordas today, Jim and Greg catch up on how they spent the Pioneer Holiday Weekend.. Temporary Protected Status for more than 300,000 Haitians living in the U.S. is set to expire today after the Supreme Court cleared the way last month for the Trump administration to end the program. Jim and Greg break down what TPS actually is, which countries are affected, the broader impact on communities and employers, and what this means for immigrants from other nations still under the designation.- From Seattle to Berlin: Deadly attacks rock a weekend of celebrationIt was a violent weekend at home and abroad. In Seattle, three people are dead and four wounded after gunfire erupted at the Bite of Seattle food festival near the Space Needle on Sunday evening. Police say two men opened fire on each other, catching bystanders in the crossfire. One suspect is in custody; a second remains at large. Overseas, a van-ramming and stabbing attack at Berlin's Pride parade killed one woman and injured 29 others in what German authorities are calling an Islamist terror attack. The suspect was later tracked down and shot dead by police. Greg and Jim discuss the latest.– The WHCD redo and the weirdness that came with itThe White House Correspondents' Dinner got a do-over Friday night after that armed security breach shut down the original back in April — and things got awkward. Jim and Greg lay out the moments from the President that shocked them most.– The ADA at 36: What's better, what's broken, and what's next for disability rightsThis weekend marked the 36th anniversary of the Americans with Disabilities Act. In this special hour we take an look at how far the country has come in protecting the rights of Americans with disabilities, where progress has stalled, and what may have gotten worse. Nate Crippes of the Disability Law Center of Utah joins on how the legal landscape has shifted since the ADA became law, Matthew Wappett, executive director of Utah State University's Institute for Disability Research, Policy, & Practice, on the big-picture challenges still facing the disability community, and our very own Holly Richardson — a mom with several kids with special needs — on what the fight for access and inclusion actually looks like day to day.– The Iran war pause: What's next?After 13 consecutive nights of U.S. airstrikes on Iran, the bombs have stopped — at least for now. Both sides paused attacks over the weekend as regional mediators push to revive negotiations. Greg and Jim share their analysis on the situation and where things could go from here.- How Utah is trying to lower its criminal recidivism rateA report has found while Utah has fewer people under "correctional control" than much of the nation, it's spending more per inmate than neighboring states. Bridger Beal Cvetko with KSL.com joins to help walk through this report and why it matters.- Fourth firefighter dies following Knowles fire burnover | Timp fire arson suspect faces judgeThe wildland firefighting community is mourning again. Nate Matthews, 43, a 10-year veteran from Lincoln, Nebraska, has died from burn injuries suffered during the June 27 burnover on the Utah-Colorado border — making him the fourth firefighter killed in the same incident. Three other crew members died at the scene, and a fifth remains hospitalized. The Knowles Fire has since been overtaken by the Snyder Fire. Then, we turn to a local arson case: a judge will consider Tuesday whether to grant bail to a West Jordan man accused of setting the Timp Fire that evacuated the Timpooneke Campground in American Fork Canyon. Greg shares the latest and what is to be expected in court.– Concerns rise around Utah's overnight temperatures + closing argumentsMeteorologist are warning people to find air conditioning and drink plenty of water as a part of a major heat wave is hitting the Wasatch front... we'll get into why the overnight temperatures are causing the most concern. Greg shares his closing arguments. -
Concerns rise around Utah's overnight temperatures + closing arguments
Meteorologist are warning people to find air conditioning and drink plenty of water as a part of a major heat wave is hitting the Wasatch front... we'll get into why the overnight temperatures are causing the most concern. Greg shares his closing arguments.
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Fourth firefighter dies following Knowles fire burnover | Timp fire arson suspect faces judge
The wildland firefighting community is mourning again. Nate Matthews, 43, a 10-year veteran from Lincoln, Nebraska, has died from burn injuries suffered during the June 27 burnover on the Utah-Colorado border — making him the fourth firefighter killed in the same incident. Three other crew members died at the scene, and a fifth remains hospitalized. The Knowles Fire has since been overtaken by the Snyder Fire. Then, we turn to a local arson case: a judge will consider Tuesday whether to grant bail to a West Jordan man accused of setting the Timp Fire that evacuated the Timpooneke Campground in American Fork Canyon. Greg shares the latest and what is to be expected in court.
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How Utah is trying to lower its criminal recidivism rate
A report has found while Utah has fewer people under "correctional control" than much of the nation, it's spending more per inmate than neighboring states. Bridger Beal Cvetko with KSL.com joins to help walk through this report and why it matters.
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The Iran war pause: What's next?
After 13 consecutive nights of U.S. airstrikes on Iran, the bombs have stopped — at least for now. Both sides paused attacks over the weekend as regional mediators push to revive negotiations. Greg and Jim share their analysis on the situation and where things could go from here.
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The ADA at 36: What's better, what's broken, and what's next for disability rights
This weekend marked the 36th anniversary of the Americans with Disabilities Act. In this special hour we take an look at how far the country has come in protecting the rights of Americans with disabilities, where progress has stalled, and what may have gotten worse. Nate Crippes of the Disability Law Center of Utah joins on how the legal landscape has shifted since the ADA became law, Matthew Wappett, executive director of Utah State University's Institute for Disability Research, Policy, & Practice, on the big-picture challenges still facing the disability community, and our very own Holly Richardson — a mom with several kids with special needs — on what the fight for access and inclusion actually looks like day to day.
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The WHCD redo and the weirdness that came with it
The White House Correspondents' Dinner got a do-over Friday night after that armed security breach shut down the original back in April — and things got awkward. Jim and Greg lay out the moments from the President that shocked them most.
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From Seattle to Berlin: Deadly attacks rock a weekend of celebration
It was a violent weekend at home and abroad. In Seattle, three people are dead and four wounded after gunfire erupted at the Bite of Seattle food festival near the Space Needle on Sunday evening. Police say two men opened fire on each other, catching bystanders in the crossfire. One suspect is in custody; a second remains at large. Overseas, a van-ramming and stabbing attack at Berlin's Pride parade killed one woman and injured 29 others in what German authorities are calling an Islamist terror attack. The suspect was later tracked down and shot dead by police. Greg and Jim discuss the latest.
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TPS for Haiti expires today — what it means for 300,000+ immigrants
Jim Bennett co-hosts with Greg Skordas today, Jim and Greg catch up on how they spent the Pioneer Holiday Weekend.. Temporary Protected Status for more than 300,000 Haitians living in the U.S. is set to expire today after the Supreme Court cleared the way last month for the Trump administration to end the program. Jim and Greg break down what TPS actually is, which countries are affected, the broader impact on communities and employers, and what this means for immigrants from other nations still under the designation.
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Inside Sources Full Show July 23rd, 2026: Pioneer Day: Celebrating Utah's unique heritage
Topics we will cover on this episode of KSL's Inside Sources include:
- Boys visiting Bear Lake allegedly shot by BB gun at campground
- Healing the Great Salt Lake: SLC leaders work to cut down on water usage
- President Trump tries to implement tariffs... again
- All the data that's been released on UFOs, and still no alien?
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Pioneer Day: Celebrating Utah's unique heritage
It's finally here – the annual Pioneer Day holiday! In a special hour on today's Inside Sources, we dig into history, celebrations, and the culture of this unique Utah holiday.
Missy Larsen, CEO of This is the Place Heritage Park joins Greg and Holly to talk about the holiday's history. Then we focus in on the role of women in establishing the state and the kinds of modern-day pioneers in the state today; Dr. Katherine Kitterman, historical director of Better Days 2020 joins for this conversation. What about the actual celebrations and potential road issues with the long weekend? UDOT's John Gleason shares advice all holiday travelers need to know. Things finish off with something super special to Utah's culture: Jello! Listen for a gelatin taste-test with creations from Holly and Inside Sources Executive Producer Andy Cupp. KSL Traffic Manager and host of a Christmas podcast Rikki Meece also joins the program to share some fascinating insights into the history of gelatin creations.
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All the data that's been released on UFOs, and still no alien?
Do you believe? A lot of Americans do, and that has many frustrated about all the data dumps from the federal government on UFOs. The big question: where the heck are the aliens? With all the data and docs being released about extraterrestrial life, we still don't have an alien. Opinion Editor at the Deseret News Jay Evensen joins with his thoughts.
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President Trump tries to implement tariffs... again
You know the saying "If at first you don't succeed... try, try again?" Well, that's exactly what the President is doing. Despite the Supreme Court putting the kibosh on earlier tariff plans, the President is trying again. This week, President Trump said he'd implement new tariffs on a slew of countries, including a 50% tariff on certain goods coming out of Canada. With the economy already on shaky ground because of the War in Iran, is this really the best move right now? Dr. Michael Kofoed, assistant professor of economics at the University of Tennessee at Knoxville joins the show to give an economist's point of view.
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Healing the Great Salt Lake: SLC leaders work to cut down on water usage
Leaders in Salt Lake City say the ongoing drought means non-residential centers in the city should be required to cut down on their water usage. A few of the city council members say it's a good idea, but that it needs to go further. The hope is that the city can use less water overall, allowing more of it to flow into the struggling Great Salt Lake. At the same time, managers of the lake say conservation efforts are paying off even though the lake sits at its lowest levels in three years. Greg and Holly share updates on efforts to heal the Great Salt Lake.
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Boys visiting Bear Lake allegedly shot by BB gun at campground
Neighbors being un-neighborly -- that's nothing new. But up near Bear Lake, some campers got a rude and dangerous surprise from a campground neighbor. A family visiting the K-O-A in Garden City says a man shot a BB gun at their sons... completely unprovoked. With a lot of people planning to head out for the Pioneer Day weekend -- so things will be busy – the Inside Sources hosts talk about the appropriate ways to deal with people you might not like. And just FYI, it doesn't involve shooting.
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Inside Sources Full Show July 22nd, 2026: The countdown to Pioneer Day is on
Topics we cover on this episode of KSL's Inside Sources include:
- Dignified transfer for 4 fallen soldiers
- Suspected mall stabber misses first court appearance
- Issues with voter registration in New Jersey
- KSL Investigates: Is it possible to recover money stolen in scams?
- Outdoor safety tips for long holiday weekend
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The power of a wave
The power of a simple wave -- it can really change your day. If it comes from a stranger, it might be a little weird -- maybe a little confusing. But the President of Brigham Young University, Shane Reese, says these simple waves have really helped him connect with others, even people he doesn't know. Inside Sources finishes off with a look at the power of a wave.
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Study: More and more Americans shoplifting the essentials in 2026
The number of Americans shoplifting is way up. But it’s not the kind of shoplifting you may have done as a teenager — most of the items being stolen off the shelves are everyday essentials.
In this segment, Greg and Holly break down a new Lending Tree study and share their own thoughts on why Americans are turning to crime for the basics.
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Outdoor safety tips for long holiday weekend
The weather around much of the state looks pretty nice -- and warm -- for the long Pioneer Day holiday weekend. And that means many people are bound to get outdoors. Ahead of the long weekend, we take a few minutes to discuss outdoor safety with Major Steve Bullock with the law enforcement arm of the Division of Outdoor Recreation. He shares tips and guidance so that families can make sure preventable disasters don't come to fruition. Before you get outside for the three-day weekend... let's talk about outdoor safety again.
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Beaver community continues clean-up efforts, how can folks on the Wasatch Front help?
Clean-up efforts in rural Utah continue today as the town of Beaver works to get back up and running following some devastating floods. The images and videos that have come out of the area have been heartbreaking -- homes damaged, animals wading through high water, and swelling rivers -- it's been hard to watch. Beaver Mayor Matt Robinson joins Inside Sources to share updates on the recovery, where their drinking water issues sit today, and how people around Utah can help the town in the next steps.
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People finding different ways to make homebuying fit their budget
If you're in the market for a new house, you may need to get a little creative to make the purchase and monthly payment work. Between record-high home prices and higher interest rates, you may still be in a challenge. But that doesn't mean buying a home is impossible -- it might just require you to get a little "scrappy."
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KSL Investigates: Is it possible to recover money stolen in scams?
If you've ever dropped some cash on the street and missed picking it up, whelp … you better kiss it goodbye. And if you find yourself the victim of a financial scam, should you also kill that money goodbye? Not necessarily! KSL Investigator Matt Gephardt looked into the process and timeline to get money back from scams or fraud; he explains what he learned to Greg and Holly.
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Issues with voter registration in New Jersey
A bit of a voter registration issue in New Jersey has been discovered, where thousands of non-citizens were incorrectly registered to vote. The governor there says some 6,600 people were inadvertently registered when they got their drivers' license. Of those folks, 400 of them ended up voting in elections. Inside Sources discusses how Utah's voter registration works and how the process differs from that in New Jersey.
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Suspected mall stabber misses first court appearance
The man accused of stabbing a mall kiosk worker in West Valley City was expected to be in court today for his initial appearance. Prosecutors say Peter Michael Larsen targeted the man purely because of his religious beliefs as a member of the Islamic faith. While he didn't appear in court after all, KSL Legal Analyst Greg Skordas breaks down the felony charges Larsen faces and what potential punishments he could see if convicted.
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Dignified transfer for 4 fallen soldiers
It was a solemn scene in Delaware this morning as the bodies of four service members killed in the Middle East came home. President Trump attended the dignified transfer, which included the body of 1st Lieutenant Tyler Feehan. He had strong ties to Cedar City, having graduated from both Cedar High School and Southern Utah University. We hear from SUU President Mindy Benson about the ways the university plans to honor Feehan. Greg and Holly also discuss the escalating costs of the war in general.
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The countdown to Pioneer Day is on
The Pioneer Day countdown is on! Fireworks are officially legal to light today, but it depends on where you live. The fireworks rules are different for this holiday than they were for Independence Day, so Greg and Holly explain the nuances. They also discuss ways – and hear from listeners too – with ideas of celebrating Pioneer Day without fireworks.
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Inside Sources Full Show July 21st, 2026: Beaver County Commission declares local state of emergency over flooding
- Train suspected in causing Roy brush fire that destroyed several homes
- How volunteers can best assist in search and rescue operations
- Pres. Trump issues warning to Iran; SUU graduate student killed in Middle East conflict
- Utah mayors react to Governor's fireworks order for Pioneer Day
- Support continues to pour in for family of flash flood victims
- Helping Rural Utah: Bridging gaps in healthcare, food insecurity
- Ask the Attorney: Seizing a plane for carrying a six-pack of beer
- Utahns help translate kid's show "Cocomelon" into ASL
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Utahns help translate kids' show "Cocomelon" into ASL
Holly absolutely loves this final story of the day -- The Salt Lake Tribune reports that one of the most popular children's shows on Netflix -- Cocomelon -- will soon be available in American Sign Language. And it's all thanks to two Utahns. Holly shares why she's excited for this story and then shares her fun facts of the day; Greg finishes with his closing arguments.
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Ask the Attorney: Seizing a plane for carrying a six-pack of beer
The Supreme Court will take up a case in the next term dealing with excessive fines. At the heart of the issue is this question: should transporting a six-pack of beer to a dry county via plane... result in the seizure of the plane? We know many of our listeners might not drink beer -- that's not entirely the point of this case. But it does bring up some really interesting questions about unreasonable seizures and fines. In this edition of "Ask the Attorney," KSL Legal Analyst Greg Skordas explains the case to Holly.
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Helping Rural Utah: Bridging gaps in healthcare, food insecurity
Utahns are trying to bridge the gaps often seen between rural and urban Utah, especially when it comes to things like healthcare and food. Yesterday, we learned about several programs aimed at helping improve and build up healthcare and emergency services in rural communities. Today, we're learning about an expanded program to help with food insecurity. We hear part of the announcement today, and Inside Sources Executive Producer Andy Cupp joins Greg and Holly to describe more of the issues that face rural communities.
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Support continues to pour in for family of flash flood victims
It's a heartwarming development to such a sad story -- Utahns are stepping up to support the lone daughter left after five members of her family were killed in a flash flood in Wayne County. Donations have been pouring in for Lydia Vernon -- the daughter of Katrina Long, the woman killed in the flash flood incident. And today, the family of Katrina -- including her husband Provo Fire Captain Spencer Long -- will be transported from the Utah Medical Examiner's Office to the funeral home in Utah County. Greg and Holly share updates on both developments.
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Utah mayors react to Governor's fireworks order for Pioneer Day
Fireworks restrictions are back on for the Pioneer Day holiday. Well... kind of. Unlike the 4th of July -- which saw a more blanket ban statewide -- Governor Cox says he'll leave it mostly up to the cities themselves this time around. However, the governor did say he thinks people in Northern Utah should avoid fireworks. But with each city left to do its own thing, could this spell some additional troubles? This fireworks season, we've been speaking with the President of the Utah League of Cities and Towns, Bountiful Mayor Kate Bradshaw, about the restrictions. She joins us again to react to this latest announcement.
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Pres. Trump issues warning to Iran; SUU graduate student killed in Middle East conflict
President Donald Trump issued a warning to Iran following the deaths of three American servicemembers this weekend. One of those soldiers has been revealed to be a graduate student at Southern Utah University, 1st Lt. Tyler James Feehan. Inside Sources spends some time talking about Feehan and how SUU will honor him. Retired Marine Colonel "Burner" Dunn also joins the show to share his own expertise on the escalations in the Middle East.
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How volunteers can best assist in search and rescue operations
A man in Carbon County fell to his death while trying to find a woman who's been missing in the mountains for several months. Now, law enforcement is asking that people do not self-deploy to assist independently in search and rescue operations. And for Utahns -- who often want to step in and help -- this can be a hard ask. So how can people actually help in search and rescue missions? Scott Hammond, long-time member of the Utah County Sheriff's Search and Rescue team and Utah State University professor, joins the conversation.
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Train suspected in causing Roy brush fire that destroyed several homes
Several families are out of their homes this morning, after a series of small brush fires spread into neighborhoods near the train tracks in Roy. Crews battled the flames -- which were spread out over a 1.5-mile stretch -- for several hours yesterday. Officials believe a passing train may have thrown off sparks from its brakes, causing the small fires that rapidly spread through the dry grass and brush.
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Beaver County Commission declares local state of emergency over flooding
Residents living near the Beaver River woke up to new flash flood warnings this morning, just a few days after devastating floods swept through the area. Mud and debris continue to make their way down from the Cottonwood Fire burn scar, prompting county officials to declare a local state of emergency. We hear the commissioners make the declaration, and Greg and Holly discuss the continued threat of floods and the way the community's already trying to rebuild.
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Inside Sources Full Show July 20th, 2026: Deadly weekend weather: Flash floods cause damage, deaths in Central and Southern Utah
- How one state program looks to help boost and support healthcare and emergency services in rural Utah
- Sen. Lee continues push to largely end mail-in voting
- Three Americans killed in Middle Eastern conflicts
- AI tech industry workers sound an alarm; Utah's human-first AI initiative rolls forward
- Gov. Cox announces new restrictions for Pioneer Day fireworks
- Ask the Attorney: Man sentenced for manslaughter due to girlfriend's suicide
- Visit Salt Lake launches new campaign rebranding the capital city
- Top-ranked Utah mac-and-cheese maker heads to national competition
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Top-ranked Utah mac-and-cheese maker heads to national competition
Think you have a pretty good mac-and-cheese? One Utah woman thought so, and now she's competing on national TV. Inside Sources discusses the owner of Utah's "Hey Grill Hey" and her recent appearance on The Food Network's Pitmaster competition.
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Visit Salt Lake launches new campaign rebranding the capital city
Is it time for Utah's capital city to get a new nickname? Some new branding to better promote the area? Visit Salt Lake thinks so, so now they're launching a new marketing campaign labelling Salt Lake City as "America's Mountain City." Take that, Denver -- aka the "Mile-High City!" Greg and Holly read listener suggestions on what nickname SLC should take for future marketing campaigns. Inside Sources executive producer Andy Cupp also joins the conversation.
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Ask the Attorney: Man sentenced for manslaughter due to girlfriend's suicide
It could be the very first case of its kind in the United States -- a BYU student's boyfriend has been sentenced for manslaughter after his abuse preceded his girlfriend's suicide. An article on the story caught Holly's eye over the weekend, so she sits down with KSL Legal Analyst Greg Skordas to discuss the nuances of the case.
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Gov. Cox announces new restrictions for Pioneer Day fireworks
Amid the annual Days of '47 cattle drive today, Governor Spencer Cox announced a new kind of hybrid fireworks restriction policy for the Pioneer Day holiday. The governor said there will be different kinds of restrictions depending on the area -- that some areas of the state have received enough monsoonal moisture to warrant easing restrictions. But in other areas -- like along the Wasatch Front -- the governor said stricter restrictions are necessary.
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AI tech industry workers sound an alarm; Utah's human-first AI initiative rolls forward
The tech industry is finding itself in a bit of a panic thanks to artificial intelligence. Some of the biggest winners in that industry say we may be in for a bit of a reckoning thanks to technology that's evolving way too fast. Amid all of that, the state of Utah is trying to take a more proactive approach to AI policy, making sure it protects our children while also ensuring that Utah stays on the front lines of technological advancements. Jefferson Moss and Margaret Busse, co-chairs of Utah's Pro-Human AI task force, join Greg and Holly for a discussion.
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Three Americans killed in Middle Eastern conflicts
The War in Iran has claimed the lives of an additional three American military service members. Now, several media outlets are asking the question: "Is the conflict in Iran teetering on all-out war?" Greg and Holly get updates on the situation from NewsNation and share their thoughts on how this war continues to stretch on with no real end in sight.
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Sen. Lee continues push to largely end mail-in voting
Despite what years of experience and evidence show us, Senator Mike Lee is once again going after mail-in voting. He says that it "should not survive much longer" except for a few exceptions. It's just the latest in a series of moves by Republicans this year to change how the country votes. Joining Inside Sources for this discussion is Deseret News congressional correspondent Cami Mondeaux.
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How one state program looks to help boost and support healthcare and emergency services in rural Utah
As rural Utah sees more and more visitors every year -- and as Mother Nature takes her toll in the forms of fires and flooding -- existing services in the area can be stretched thin. A program within the Utah Department of Health and Human Services aims to provide more support, funding, and resources to ensure that these small communities that make up the heart of Utah are able to help both their own neighbors and the many visitors who frequent our great outdoors. Director of the Rural Health Transformation Program Krisann Humphreys joins Greg and Holly to explain.
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Deadly weekend weather: Flash floods cause damage, deaths in Central and Southern Utah
It was a heartbreaking weekend of deadly wild weather across the state. Flash flooding in Wayne County is suspected of killing five family members who were out camping, hiking, and rappelling near Bicknell. The same storm system forced water and mud down the mountain and into the town of Beaver. Much of the debris came from the Cottonwood Fire burn scar and even closed I-15 for a few hours. KSL-TV's Alex Cabrero is on the scene in Beaver and explains what things look like as the sun rises. KSL Meteorologist Matt Johnson joins the show to give an update on the forecast -- unfortunately, more wet weather is in store for the Beaver area. Then we hear from friends of Katrina and Spencer Long, two parents killed in flash flooding while camping near Bicknell.
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Inside Sources Full Show July 17th, 2026: Pres. Trump continues to cast doubt on 2020 election results
- Longtime White House teleprompter operator facing allegations of insider training
- 'Teen Takeovers' coming to Utah
- Real Salt Lake issues apology to decorated Utah soccer player
- Lawmakers back east demand Canada do more to stop wildfire smoke from blowing into U.S.
- Defense Secretary Hegseth announces testosterone test for military service members
- Secret to endless youth? Going to the movie theater!
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Secret to endless youth? Going to the movie theater!
We're always looking for ways to stay young, healthy, and beautiful. But the so-called "fountain of youth"... could be in your neighborhood movie theater. So maybe it's actually the "soda fountain of youth?" A new study published this week in the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health says engaging in cultural experiences like going to the movies or visiting a museum could be linked to slower physiological aging. Greg and Holly discuss and are then joined by the KSL Movie Show hosts Val Cameron and Andy Farnsworth to discuss the big movie of the week: The Odyssey.
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Defense Secretary Hegseth announces testosterone test for military service members
Get ready for a fun edition of "Hot-take Holly." Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth now says that military service members 30 and older will get testosterone testing as part of their physicals. If the numbers are too low -- whatever that means -- they'll get some gender-affirming care in the form of testosterone replacement therapy. Dr. Rosemary Lesser, an Air Force veteran, former Utah State Representative, and retired physician, joins to share her military and medical expertise.
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Lawmakers back east demand Canada do more to stop wildfire smoke from blowing into U.S.
Some lawmakers back east appear to be blowing smoke today. Well… and they're inhaling it too. Wildfires in Canada have pushed a lot of smoke across the Midwest and Northeast, and lawmakers are mad. In fact, many are calling on Canada to do more to control the smoke. That has Greg and Holly wondering just what on Earth Canada is supposed to do… install some giant fans or something?
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Real Salt Lake issues apology to decorated Utah soccer player
A well-decorated female soccer star from Utah is the center of a new apology after Real Salt Lake posted a celebration on social media for her husband, former NFL player JJ Watt. Even though RSL is a soccer team -- and Kealia Ohai Watt was in the picture with JJ -- she wasn't even mentioned. This caused JJ to post on social media, calling on RSL to rethink their original post. Now, RSL is apologizing for an honest mistake.
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'Teen Takeovers' coming to Utah
Are the kids actually alright? From beach closures to assaults, is it just youth delinquency or is it something deeper? It usually starts with a social media post that results in thousands of teens descending on one spot. And as you might imagine, all those teenagers together tend to result in chaos galore. Ahead of the weekend, police in Syracuse are actively warning parents of a "teen takeover" that's rumored to happen. Inside Sources discusses the dangers of unsupervised teenage hijinks and the potential legal consequences that could follow.
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Longtime White House teleprompter operator facing allegations of insider training
Insider trading isn't new, and it's not legal. But a long-time White House teleprompter operator -- the person who'd run the teleprompter for the President's speeches -- is now out of a job over allegations that he used privileged information to bet on what the President would say in his speeches. Unfortunately, Greg and Holly say it seems pretty on par with the way things have been going in Washington. And now, lawmakers like Senator John Curtis are calling for harsher and more thorough crackdowns on insider trading.
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Pres. Trump continues to cast doubt on 2020 election results
The Trump Administration is renewing its claims that the 2020 presidential election was stolen or tampered with by foreign governments. In a primetime speech last night, the President claimed multiple times that China was involved in the election, that they hacked voter databases, and that the so-called "deep state" was behind a massive cover-up. Then this morning, Secretary of Homeland Security Markwayne Mullin reaffirmed those claims. We hear a bit from the DHS Secretary live, and then Greg and Holly share their frustration with the continued misinformation on the 2020 election.
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Inside Sources Full Show July 16th, 2026: Defamation suit filed over data center project comments
- Understanding what's been cut in the President's executive order shrinking two Utah monuments
- Elections: Revisiting the 2020 election, local election hiccups, LG responds to DOJ
- Domestic violence calls are up
- Tough Conversations with Kids: How parents can work with other parents to help children thrive
- Utah AG joins other attorneys general to push for more robocall changes
- Americans continue to lose trust in higher education
- Utah's national parks ranked as some of the happiest parks… thanks to selfies?
- Allegations of cheating on driver's license tests in California
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Allegations of cheating on driver's license tests in California
Thousands of California drivers are being accused of cheating on their driver's test. Now, roughly 11,000 drivers will need to retake their written tests. The DMV says the written tests showed "irregularities," but that was it; no other details as to how the cheating supposedly occurred. Greg and Holly finish the show by sharing the things they wish they had learned when they first got their licenses.
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Utah's national parks ranked as some of the happiest parks… thanks to selfies?
Greg and Holly love Utah's national parks. They're great places to get away and enjoy the great outdoors. And they're not alone -- the parks here see record-breaking attendance year after year, and now there's a new study that ranks three of Utah's national parks among America's happiest parks. But it's the way this was figured out that really made the team chuckle -- an AI tool ran through hundreds of selfies taken at the country's 63 national parks and examined the people in the pictures. The bigger the smile, the happier the park.
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Americans continue to lose trust in higher education
“Why are Americans still feeling kind of ‘meh’ about higher education?” It’s a good question, and it’s also the headline of a new Deseret News piece examining changing education trends across the country. Deseret News reporter Jason Swensen dug into polling both in Utah and around the country, which finds more and more Americans have little or no trust in the country's institutions of higher education. He joins Greg and Holly to share more about what he found.
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Utah AG joins other attorneys general to push for more robocall changes
It’s arguably one of the most annoying things to happen, and it often happens multiple times a day and even in the middle of the night. Robocalls. Who doesn’t hate these kinds of calls — the ones that never stop, even when you tell them to? And no matter how many scam call filters you have on your phone, it’s never good enough. Now, Utah Attorney General Derek Brown is joining other attorneys general in pushing the FCC to do more to end them. He joins Inside Sources with more.
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Tough Conversations with Kids: How parents can work with other parents to help children thrive
Parents: who hasn't felt like a failure at some point? Those thoughts and feelings can make it hard to keep a close relationship with your kids. And not having that relationship can make it even harder to have tough, important conversations with your children. As part of our "Tough Conversations with Kids" coverage this week, we speak one-on-one with licensed marriage and family therapist Dr. Liz Hale. She shares insights and tips to help parents address issues of violence with their kids, while also ensuring parents maintain their own emotional stability and stamina.
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Domestic violence calls are up
The summer season and the ongoing World Cup are both being credited for a rise in domestic violence calls here in Utah and around the world. In the United Kingdom, a charity looking at DV calls says they've seen domestic violence cases rise regardless of who wins and loses the match. Greg and Holly discuss this troubling trend and share resources to help those in need.
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Elections: Revisiting the 2020 election, local election hiccups, LG responds to DOJ
There seem to be additional attempts to revisit the 2020 presidential election. Tonight, President Trump is expected to speak on elections and is rumored to unveil new findings alleging Chinese interference in that election. Despite this, Vice President JD Vance says Republicans will accept the results of the upcoming midterm election, even if the SAVE America Act doesn't pass. Deseret News Congressional Correspondent Cami Mondeaux previews tonight's speech. Greg and Holly also discuss some local election news, including missing ballots out of Utah County and the Lieutenant Governor's response to continued DOJ requests for private voter information.
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Understanding what's been cut in the President's executive order shrinking two Utah monuments
The Grand Staircase of the Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument has been cut out of the monument. President Trump's recent order slashing the size of those monuments removed many protected and sacred areas within them. And today, we're now seeing what's been cut. Greg and Holly are a bit astonished by this development, especially since the monument's name won't change.
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Defamation suit filed over data center project comments
Several Utahns have now filed a defamation lawsuit against Kevin O'Leary -- the man behind the Stratos Data Center in Box Elder County -- and Fox News. O'Leary had called out several Utahns and groups back in May, saying their opposition to the data center was being funded by the Chinese Communist Party. Those groups are now suing in federal court, saying the comments damaged both their reputation and their businesses. The suit comes even though O'Leary and Fox News both issued statements a few weeks ago retracting their comments. But like they say... once the cat's out of the bag, it's impossible to put it back in.
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Inside Sources Full Show July 15th, 2026: MIDA supporter of data center project says the process has been transparent
- Burn scars around Utah at high risk of mud flows, flooding
- Caregiver charged in death of three men with disabilities has court appearance
- State senator named to lead conservative think-tank
- U.S. House passes bipartisan bill to make Daylight Saving Time permanent
- Todd Blanche faces Congressional hearing to become new U.S. Attorney General
- Tough Conversations with Kids: How parents can assist in stopping and preventing bullying
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Happy Birthday, Greg!
Our special co-host and KSL Legal Analyst Greg Skordas is celebrating a special day today – it's his birthday! Listen in for a fun surprise from the KSL NewsRadio family, the Inside Sources team, and Greg's wife, Rebecca Skordas.
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Sen. Curtis pushes back on President Trump's continued attacks against Iran
Senator John Curtis is reaffirming Congress's role in wars and conflicts today, saying President Trump needs to consult with Congress more as the War in Iran progresses. The comments come after the president said the ceasefire was over and resumed attacks on Iran.
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Back-and-forth on order for ICE agents to suspect traffic stops
There's continued fallout today over two fatal ICE shootings in just the past few days. The Department of Homeland Security was going to step in and make some changes, but recent comments from the President have rerouted that plan. Secretary Mullin originally said ICE would suspend traffic stops, but a social media post from the President this morning says ICE "cannot give up" its traffic stops.
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Healing the Great Salt Lake: New funding announced to save the lake
With a terrible snowpack, a worsening drought, and blowing dust across the Wasatch Front, the Great Salt Lake is in danger. It's something that affects us all, and we have to do something now if we even want the lake to have a future. This morning, there was a major announcement of new funding to help support the Great Salt Lake. Ben Hart, executive director of the Utah Inland Port Authority, joins to share more insights on the investment.
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Housing Troubles: Housing prices reach highest levels ever
Housing prices are at their highest levels ever. And the newly passed housing bill -- the one President Trump allowed to go into law without his signature last week -- hopes to make homeownership more attainable and affordable. According to the National Association of Realtors, the average home price in the U.S. is more than $440,000. In fact, June saw the 36th straight month of rising home prices. So with all that in mind, how the heck do we not lose hope? We get insights from our good friend Russell Faucette with The Stern Team of Omada Real Estate.
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Tough Conversations with Kids: How parents can assist in stopping and preventing bullying
Our special weeklong coverage on Inside Sources continues today -- how parents can have difficult conversations with their children. In this segment, Greg and Holly are joined by Dr. Ryan Bartlett, Director of Strategic Communications for the Utah State Board of Education. Bartlett describes ways parents can help teachers and other school staff in both stopping and preventing bullying.
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Todd Blanche faces Congressional hearing to become new U.S. Attorney General
This morning, acting U.S. attorney general faced a slew of tough questions from Senators as he moves through the process to become the full attorney general. Among the questions this morning were things about FBI director Kash Patel, the President's pardons of those involved with the January 6th riots, and whether or not the President can serve a third term. With a lot of baggage already -- including the controversy around the Epstein Files -- could Blanche actually get confirmed?
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U.S. House passes bipartisan bill to make Daylight Saving Time permanent
Here comes the sun! Last night, the U.S. House of Representatives passed a bipartisan bill to officially move the country into a permanent Daylight Saving Time. Now don't make any changes to your sleep schedule just yet -- the proposal still has to pass the Senate. And even though we talk about this every six months, it stills tops of the list of issues voters care about. Greg and Holly give their thoughts on whether to keep the change, move to Standard Time, or stay on Daylight Saving Time.
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State senator named to lead conservative think-tank
A well-known name on Utah's Capitol Hill is making some moves into the non-profit think-tank world. This morning, State Senator Todd Weiler was announced as the new President and CEO of the Sutherland Institute. The Sutherland Institute is well-known in the state for its research and polling on some of the biggest issues facing Utah. What does this move mean for Utahns and for Senator Weiler's constituents? He joins the program to explain.
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Caregiver charged in death of three men with disabilities has court appearance
The man charged in the death of three men with disabilities in February is in court this morning, as lawyers work to convince a judge to send the case to trial. Prosecutors say that Isaiah Vaughn Pulu left three of his "Safe and Sound Services" clients in a running car for at least 3.5 hours. The three men died due to carbon monoxide poisoning. KSL Legal Analyst Greg Skordas explains why this wouldn't be a death penalty case.
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Burn scars around Utah at high risk of mud flows, flooding
We told you about it on Monday and almost immediately after, the flooding and mud flows began. North Creek near Beaver was caught on camera running high and fast, filled with mud and other debris left behind by the Cottonwood Fire. As this week goes on, the chances for more storms and monsoonal moisture increase too. So while we may look okay here on the Wasatch Front, other parts of the state could see some real danger. KSL Meteorologist Devan Mascuilli joins to discuss the forecast and flooding risks.
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MIDA supporter of data center project says the process has been transparent
Leaders who oversaw the initial approval of the Stratos Data Center in Box Elder County told a room full of concerned residents that they still value public input, even though they didn't expect as much pushback as they've received thus far. Board member of the Military Installation Development Authority Mark Shepherd told KSL that despite what people have said, their process has been nothing but transparent and open. Greg and Holly don't quite see it the same way.
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Inside Sources Full Show July 14th, 2026: Monumental Whiplash: President Trump signs order shrinking two national monuments in Utah
- Utah Heat: power outages, appropriate tree watering
- Tough Conversations with Kids: How parents can keep their kids safe around evolving technology
- Utahns… the leaders of being passive-aggressive?
- Utah makes top list of worst states to live in
- Argentina court rules that goldfish have rights
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Argentina court rules that goldfish have rights
When you go to a sushi bar, one of the things you don't usually see on the menu is goldfish. I mean, we typically don't eat goldfish unless it's in cracker form. But a court in Argentina found that a pair of goldfish -- who were living in a tank at a sushi restaurant -- had rights. And we're not talking about just the right to not be eaten, but actual rights afforded to -- as the country calls it -- sentient beings. Greg shares his legal insights into this bizarre story.
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Utah makes top list of worst states to live in
Utah often tops the list of best states -- for business, for families, or for life in general. But a new ranking from CNBC certainly caught Holly and Greg by surprise. Their analysis says that Utah is one of the 10 worst places to live in the country. But why? Greg and Holly go through the data and give their takes.
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Utahns… the leaders of being passive-aggressive?
Did you know that Utahns have a reputation around the country of being ultra passive-aggressive? If you didn't, well maybe you should have.. (see what I did there?). A new opinion piece says that Utah's passive-aggressive nature isn't actually a good thing. In fact, it could actually have a detrimental effect on our society. Founding Director of the Utah Women & Leadership Project Dr. Susan Madsen explains what she's found in her research.
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Tough Conversations with Kids: How parents can keep their kids safe around evolving technology
It's only the middle of July, but back-to-school season is just around the corner. Before you know it, your kids will be out of the house for most of the day. Before they head out, we're taking some time to talk about the tough conversations you should have with your kids. Today, we kick things off with a chat about technology... AI, chatbots, and sextortion. With so much changing technology, how do you talk with your kids about the dangers of this kind of tech and how they can best be protected? Brandon Amacher, Director of the Emerging Tech Policy Lab at Utah Valley University, joins to share his expertise.
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Utah Heat: power outages, appropriate tree watering
The high temperatures are finally breaking… well, kind of. It's still a triple-degree day today, but there's some relief in the forecast thanks to higher storm chances and temperatures only in the 90s. Greg and Holly discuss what it's like to go through this heat without AC—largely due to power outages. Tony Gliot, Director of the Salt Lake City Urban Forestry Division, joins Inside Sources to talk about the importance of watering trees even with the heat and ongoing drought.
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Monumental Whiplash: President Trump signs order shrinking two national monuments in Utah
It feels like monumental whiplash -- President Trump has signed an order shrinking two controversial monuments here in Utah. Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monuments will see a size reduction of close to 90% thanks to the order, which maintains that certain sites will be protected but many others will not. Monumental Whiplash -- Inside Sources has special in-depth coverage on the move and how those affected by the President's decision are reacting. In this special hour, Greg and Holly are joined by:
- Lori Maughan, San Juan County Commissioner
- Kate Groetzinger, Communications Director at Center for Western Priorities
- Davina Smith–Idjesa, co-chair of the Bears Ears Inter-Tribal Coalition and Navajo Nation representative
- Logan Monson, Utah State Representative (District 69)
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Inside Sources Full Show July 13th, 2026: Salt Lake City breaks all-time heat record; monsoonal moisture on the way
- Sources: President Trump will sign EO shrinking size of controversial Utah monuments
- A new opponent emerges in fight against data centers
- President Trump says U.S. Navy blockade on Strait of Hormuz will go back into effect
- New York Times say DOJ has subpoenaed reporters over Air Force One reporting
- Sen. Graham's death contributing to a changing Congress
- Ask the Attorney: KSL legal analyst answers listener questions on Robinson preliminary hearing
- Bison attacks visitor at Yellowstone National Park
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Bison attacks visitor at Yellowstone National Park
Here in Utah, state officials are always reminding people not to pet the fluffy cows on Antelope Island. Well, the same principle applies to fluffy cows in Yellowstone. And to be fair, we might need an even stronger warning for people in Yellowstone: don't come within hundreds of feet of the bison, don't even look at the bison, and you know what? Don't even think about the bison. All these warnings have been heightened by an attack in Yellowstone where a 65-year-old man found himself thrown 8 feet in the air… by a bison.
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Ask the Attorney: KSL legal analyst answers listener questions on Robinson preliminary hearing
The preliminary hearing for Tyler Robinson is now on pause. The judge overseeing the case says he will wait for another round of arguments in September before deciding whether or not to take the Charlie Kirk murder case to trial. The hearing was livestreamed all last week on KSL's YouTube channel, and our listeners chimed in with so many questions and comments. In a new segment called "Ask the Attorney," KSL Legal Analyst Greg Skordas answers many of the questions asked by Utahns. He and Holly are joined by Michael Houck, KSL YouTube Specialist.
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Sen. Graham's death contributing to a changing Congress
Republican Senator from South Carolina, Lindsey Graham, has passed away. His absence from the chamber marks an interesting development, as many saw him as President Trump's "Senate Whisperer." In this segment, Greg and Holly talk about a changing Congress ahead of the midterms. Deseret News Congressional Correspondent Cami Mondeaux shares insights on a changing U.S. Congress. The Inside Sources hosts also discuss the recent appearance of Senator Mitch McConnell and whether voters have a right to know what their representatives are doing on their behalf… all the time.
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New York Times say DOJ has subpoenaed reporters over Air Force One reporting
Are there limits to the First Amendment and Freedom of the Press? The New York Times says the White House is trying to intimidate its reporters after four staffers were subpoenaed by the Department of Justice. The DOJ says it's not going after the reporters themselves, but just wants to know their sources for stories they've published on supposed security issues on the new Air Force One. KSL NewsRadio News Director Becky Bruce joins the conversation to share more on how reporters and sources interact responsibly.