A Woman’s View with Amanda

A recent study found that young Americas want to move abroad in larger numbers. They want to leave the United States because of social programs in other countries, new cultural experiences and because of the toxic political environment in the United States. KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asked her guests about this trend on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Amanda Covington, Chief Corporate Affairs Officer at the Larry H. Miller Company, Susan Madsen, founder and director of the Utah Women and Leadership Project and singer/songwriter Cherie Call. 

40% of Americans say they would be afraid to walk alone in their neighborhhood after dark. Would you? How safe do we feel in our neighborhoods, and what happens to our behavior when we don't feel safe? What makes us feel less safe? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asked her guests about this on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Amanda Covington, Chief Corporate Affairs Officer at the Larry H. Miller Company, Susan Madsen, founder and director of the Utah Women and Leadership Project and singer/songwriter Cherie Call. 

There was interesting research released this week about Gen Z. More members of Gen Z feel lonely and isolated. They don't have as many family meals together, but they consume less alcohol, drugs and tobacco. KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asked her guests about this generation on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Amanda Covington, Chief Corporate Affairs Officer at the Larry H. Miller Company, Susan Madsen, founder and director of the Utah Women and Leadership Project and singer/songwriter Cherie Call. 

There are a million more people here in Utah than were here when the Olympics came to Utah in 2002. 1 in 3 Utahns did not experience our games back then, and by the year 2034, 4 in 10 will not have had that experience. What does the announcement that Salt Lake is the preferred city for the 2034 games mean to Utah? To her people? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asked her guests on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Amanda Covington, Chief Corporate Affairs Officer at the Larry H. Miller Company, Susan Madsen, founder and director of the Utah Women and Leadership Project and singer/songwriter Cherie Call. 

million more people 1 in 3 did not experience the Olympics. By 2034, 4 in 10 will not have had that experience.

There was an interesting survey recently that asked Americans - how much MORE money do you need to be happy? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asked her guests about this on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Natalie Gochnour, Associate Dean of the David Eccles School of Business and Director of the Kem C. Gardner Policy Institute at the University of Utah, Danielle Vasquez, Executive Director of the National Center on Shaken Baby Syndrome and Sarah Strang, Chief Operating Officer of The Road Home.

We learned this week that the final debate in the 2024 presidential election will be at Kingsbury Hall at the University of Utah. What an honor for Utah! KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asked her guests about this on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Natalie Gochnour, Associate Dean of the David Eccles School of Business and Director of the Kem C. Gardner Policy Institute at the University of Utah, Danielle Vasquez, Executive Director of the National Center on Shaken Baby Syndrome and Sarah Strang, Chief Operating Officer of The Road Home.

We saw University of Utah star quarterback Cam Rising announce that he would be coming back to play another year. This will be his 7th year at the U. KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asked her guests on A Woman's View - what does it mean to be in "college" athletics now? Her guests this week include Natalie Gochnour, Associate Dean of the David Eccles School of Business and Director of the Kem C. Gardner Policy Institute at the University of Utah, Danielle Vasquez, Executive Director of the National Center on Shaken Baby Syndrome and Sarah Strang, Chief Operating Officer of The Road Home.

We learned this week that Celeste Maloy will become the 5th woman Utah has sent to Congress. The first was Reva Beck Bosone in 1948, later followed by Karen Shepherd, Enid Greene and Mia Love. KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asked her guests about this on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Natalie Gochnour, Associate Dean of the David Eccles School of Business and Director of the Kem C. Gardner Policy Institute at the University of Utah, Danielle Vasquez, Executive Director of the National Center on Shaken Baby Syndrome and Sarah Strang, Chief Operating Officer of The Road Home.

This is Thanksgiving week. From all of us at A Woman's View, we wish you and yours a warm and plentiful Thanksgiving. KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asked her guests about their holiday traditions on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Francine Gianni, former Executive Director of the Utah Department of Commerce, and Kristin Sokol, professional relationship and dating coach. 

The Supreme Court announced a new code of conduct recently. It begins with "Obey the law." There is no way to enforce the code, but there it is in writing. KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asked her guests about this on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Francine Gianni, former Executive Director of the Utah Department of Commerce, and Kristin Sokol, professional relationship and dating coach. 

Are the behavioral issues we're seeing in K-12 schools in 2023 connected to behavioral issues in political leaders? Perhaps related even more to the behavior of parents? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asked her guests on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Francine Gianni, former Executive Director of the Utah Department of Commerce, and Kristin Sokol, professional relationship and dating coach. 

We see a spending gap measure pass through Congress last week that was bipartisan. Does that give you encouragement? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asked her guests on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Francine Gianni, former Executive Director of the Utah Department of Commerce, and Kristin Sokol, professional relationship and dating coach. 

When you think about retirement, what do you see? Do you think you will be able to retire? Do you want to travel or stay at home with your feet up? Will you keep working in some capacity? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asked her guests on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include former state Senator and Representative Patrice Arent. lobbyist Crystal Young and Lisa Walker, certified athletic trainer and teacher at Springville High School.

Former Obama adviser David Axelrod said that President Biden should drop out of the race. He said, "The greatest concern is that his biggest liability is the one thing he can't change." KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asked her guests on A Woman's View what they think. Her guests this week include former state Senator and Representative Patrice Arent. lobbyist Crystal Young and Lisa Walker, certified athletic trainer and teacher at Springville High School.

As we watch demonstrations around the country, particularly on college campuses, in support of the Palestinians and against the country of Israel, is it possible those protestors are not antisemetic? In other words, can they be against the state of Israel and its policies but not against the Jewish people? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asked her guests on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include former state Senator and Representative Patrice Arent. lobbyist Crystal Young and Lisa Walker, certified athletic trainer and teacher at Springville High School.

The war continues in Gaza. There have been brief pauses in the fighting, but the suffering is evident and extreme. KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asked her guests how they see the war, one said, "The trauma carries down in their genes." Her guests this week include former state Senator and Representative Patrice Arent. lobbyist Crystal Young and Lisa Walker, certified athletic trainer and teacher at Springville High School. 

The death rate for babies in America increased by 3%. That is the first increase in 20 years. Why in this country of plenty are we losing more of our newborns? What are we doing wrong? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asks her guests on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Ginette Bott, President and CEO of the Utah Food Bank, Trish Hatch, coordinator of the CASA program and Jeanetta Williams, President of the Salt Lake Branch of the NAACP. 

As we watch the horrors continuing in the Middle East, we've seen demonstrations both in support of the people of Israel and in support of the people in Gaza. Can you be pro-Jewish and pro-Palestinian? Can you be in favor of the people of these lands and not in favor of the warring tactics of their leaders? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asks her guests on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Ginette Bott, President and CEO of the Utah Food Bank, Trish Hatch, coordinator of the CASA program and Jeanetta Williams, President of the Salt Lake Branch of the NAACP. 

If you've driven in downtown Salt Lake City lately, you notice groups of homeless people camping in various locations. Should sanctioned homeless camps be created? Does that help or hurt? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asks her guests on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Ginette Bott, President and CEO of the Utah Food Bank, Trish Hatch, coordinator of the CASA program and Jeanetta Williams, President of the Salt Lake Branch of the NAACP. 

Governor Cox said this week, "We're either going to stop hating each other or start shooting each other." Are we not focused enough on stopping the hate and increasing our love for our fellow man? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asks her guests on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Ginette Bott, President and CEO of the Utah Food Bank, Trish Hatch, coordinator of the CASA program and Jeanetta Williams, President of the Salt Lake Branch of the NAACP. 

Men are taking a greater and greater role in caretaking - both of children and aging parents. In fact, 47% of all caretakers of parents are now men. KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asks her guests about this on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Robin Ebmeyer, Director of Emergency Management and Safety for Utah Valley University, Luz Lewis Perez, Director of Development and Programs for the Kidney Foundation for Utah and Idaho, and Barb Smith, Director of Communications at Utah Valley University. 

Instances of violence against both Jews and Muslims have gone up in America since the start of the war in Israel and Gaza. That has prompted an increase in gun sales. KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asks her guests about this development on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Robin Ebmeyer, Director of Emergency Management and Safety for Utah Valley University, Luz Lewis Perez, Director of Development and Programs for the Kidney Foundation for Utah and Idaho, and Barb Smith, Director of Communications at Utah Valley University. 

Utah is among the dozens of states suing Meta, the parent company of Facebook and Instagram. Are these lawsuits akin to the lawsuits against opioid makers and tobacco companies? Is social media as addictive and dangerous as those substances - or even more so? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asks her guests on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Robin Ebmeyer, Director of Emergency Management and Safety for Utah Valley University, Luz Lewis Perez, Director of Development and Programs for the Kidney Foundation for Utah and Idaho, and Barb Smith, Director of Communications at Utah Valley University. 

The news often focuses on the negative. Lately, many news stories are about inflation and how we can't afford groceries any more. Then we get positive economic news this week about the economy growing. So which is it? Or is it both? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asks her guests on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Robin Ebmeyer, Director of Emergency Management and Safety for Utah Valley University, Luz Lewis Perez, Director of Development and Programs for the Kidney Foundation for Utah and Idaho, and Barb Smith, Director of Communications at Utah Valley University. 

We learned this week that Oprah Winfrey approached Mitt Romney to see if he would consider a unity ticket to defeat Donald Trump. He turned her down, as we now know. KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asked her guests on A Woman's View what they think of that revelation. Her guests this week include Michelle Arnold, professor of physics at Weber State University, Kimberly Gardner, teacher in elementary and middle schools with 33 years experience, and Heather Barney, long time government and communications director. 

There was a recent poll that showed 2/3 of both Republicans and Democrats say the war in Afghanistan wasn't worth fighting. KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asked her guests on A Woman's View how they view this poll and the war. Her guests this week include Michelle Arnold, professor of physics at Weber State University, Kimberly Gardner, teacher in elementary and middle schools with 33 years experience, and Heather Barney, long time government and communications director. 

It is often said that the people of Israel and Gaza are ready to move forward toward peace, but the leaders are reluctant. Where is the leadership that will lead us toward peace? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asked her guests on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Michelle Arnold, professor of physics at Weber State University, Kimberly Gardner, teacher in elementary and middle schools with 33 years experience, and Heather Barney, long time government and communications director. 

As we watch the war in Israel and Gaza, it seems like no matter what your opinion is, it's going to be wrong and even racist with one group or the other. KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson tries to understand the context, to look at the big picture, with the help of her guests on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Michelle Arnold, professor of physics at Weber State University, Kimberly Gardner, elementary and middle school teacher with 33 years experience, and Heather Barney, long time government and communications director. 

We learned this week that ACT scores are at their lowest in 30 years. What's happening with our graduating seniors? Are they prepared for college? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asks her guests on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Angela Krull, Director of Major Gifts and Corporate Sponsorships with Ballet West, Robbyn Scribner, Co-founder and Director of Outreach for Tech Moms and Nancy Lord, former Utah Republican National Committeewoman and now director of an interfaith choir. 

There was a fascinating poll done by the Deseret News that asked Utahns, "Are you better off now than you were a year ago?" KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asked her guests on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Angela Krull, Director of Major Gifts and Corporate Sponsorships with Ballet West, Robbyn Scribner, Co-founder and Director of Outreach for Tech Moms and Nancy Lord, former Utah Republican National Committeewoman and now director of an interfaith choir. 

As the world watches the war in Israel and Gaza this week, the question comes up of what could ultimately lead to peace. KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asks her guests on A Woman's View why any country would want to occupy another country? It only leads to bloodshed and suffering. Her guests this week include Angela Krull, Director of Major Gifts and Corporate Sponsorships with Ballet West, Robbyn Scribner, Co-founder and Director of Outreach for Tech Moms and Nancy Lord, former Utah Republican National Committeewoman and now director of an interfaith choir. 

We watched Hamas attack Israel a week ago and now Israel responding with attacks and the closing off of Gaza from food, water and power. KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asks her guests on A Woman's View how they understand what's happening there. Her guests this week include Angela Krull, Director of Major Gifts and Corporate Sponsorships with Ballet West, Robbyn Scribner, Co-founder and Director of Outreach for Tech Moms and Nancy Lord, former Utah Republican National Committeewoman and now director of an interfaith choir. 

This is the raw audio of a phone interview KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson did with two women, both mothers, serving time on drug charges in the Utah State Prison. Danielle Lundberg has five children. Amanda Magaña had six, but one died since she went to prison. Both women talk about the pain of being separated from their children, how they hope their children make better decisions than they did, and about how much they love their children, like any other mom. 

This week, the Wall Street Journal ran a story about "car nannies." There are nannies, including here in Utah, who make their living driving kids around. They take and pick them up from school. They take them to sports, extracurricular activities and play dates. Is this a good idea? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asks her guests on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Meghan Holbrook, Senior Vice President in the Office of the President of Zion's Bank, Kelli Pierce, Digital Media Associate with the R Street Institute and Ganel-Lyn Condie, popular speaker, host, author and mental health advocate. 

We learned this week about a new report that describes "The New Utah." "The New Utah" is bigger, stronger, more diverse, but it is also experiencing all the challenges that go along with that growth. How do you see our growth here in Utah and where do you see it going? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asks her guests on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Meghan Holbrook, Senior Vice President in the Office of the President of Zion's Bank, Kelli Pierce, Digital Media Associate with the R Street Institute and Ganel-Lyn Condie, popular speaker, host, author and mental health advocate. 

When you look at media, at the endless sources of information on the Internet, at social media, do you see growing censorship? Is the government getting too up in the business of media companies? Do safety concerns jusitfy censorship? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asks her guests on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Meghan Holbrook, Senior Vice President in the Office of the President of Zion's Bank, Kelli Pierce, Digital Media Associate with the R Street Institute and Ganel-Lyn Condie, popular speaker, host, author and mental health advocate. 

We saw the U.S. Speaker of the House ousted from office this week. So many questions are swirling around that now. Will bipartisanship always be punished? Who takes over now? What does it mean for the stability of our economy and our country? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asks her guests on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Meghan Holbrook, Senior Vice President in the Office of the President of Zion's Bank, Kelli Pierce, Digital Media Associate with the R Street Institute and Ganel-Lyn Condie, popular speaker, host, author and mental health advocate. 

Church News executive editor Sarah Jane Weaver and reporter Mary Richards sit down with KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson to talk about whether their work has ever challenged their faith. In tragedy, some may ask "Where is God in all of this?" Richards speaks of a loving Heavenly Father who knows that things do happen. 

Church News executive editor Sarah Jane Weaver and reporter Mary Richards sit down with KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson to talk about whether they see their work as a calling. Weaver says all of us should see our work as a calling. She did not set out with the hope of working for Church News. She wanted to cover politics, but when the opportunity presented itself, she knew this was where she needed to be. 

Church News executive editor Sarah Jane Weaver and reporter Mary Richards sit down with KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson to talk about how their faith shows up in their work. How much does inspiration impact what they report on and how they report on it? Both talk about the joy of beginning work meetings with prayer and the power of praying outloud for your coworkers and their families. 

Two women who began their careers in journalism decades ago are now serving as journalists for the Church News for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Sarah Jane Weaver is the executive editor and Mary Richards is a reporter. Both write compelling stories for Church News, and both join KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson to talk about the stories they cover. 

We saw Representative Chris Stewart step down after 6 months into his term, citing the health of his wife. A few years ago, Jason Chaffetz stepped down mid-term. Both of them went on to high paying jobs in the private sector. Whenever an elected official steps down midterm, should they be required to pay for the consequences? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asked her guests what they thought about that. Her guests this week include Susan Spiers, CEO of the Utah Association of CPAs and Heather Barney, long time government and communications director, now businesswoman. 

Utah has the worst debt-to-salary ratio in the country. What is going on? Are there just more financial stressors or have we forgotten how to live within our means? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asked her guests what they thought about that. Her guests this week include Susan Spiers, CEO of the Utah Association of CPAs and Heather Barney, long time government and communications director, now businesswoman. 

Have you been watching the strike going on in Detroit? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson sees both sides of the argument. Employees see CEOs earning 40% more and wonder why they can't have the same. But they already make good money! The rest of us would never dare asking for a 40% raise. Amanda asked her guests what they thought about this. Her guests this week include Susan Spiers, CEO of the Utah Association of CPAs and Heather Barney, long time government and communications director, now businesswoman. 

The Senate changed its dress code this week so that senators are no longer required to wear business attire on the Senate floor. They can now wear shorts and hoodies to make speeches or vote, although staff and guests must still dress appropriately. KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asked her guests what they thought about that. Her guests this week include Susan Spiers, CEO of the Utah Association of CPAs and Heather Barney, long time government and communications director, now businesswoman. 

The House appears poised to begin impeachment proceedings against President Biden. Is this warranted? Will every president be impeached if the opposing party controls the House? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asks her guests on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Sharla Jessop, President of Smedley Financial, Ronda Menlove, former state representative, educator and administrator from Utah State University, and Dr. DeLaina Tonks, Executive Director of Mountain Heights Academy. 

Let's talk about parenting. We saw the arrest of a YouTube star named Ruby Franke from Utah who is charged with child abuse and neglect. Where is the line between discipline and abuse? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asked her guests about this on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Sharla Jessop, President of Smedley Financial, Ronda Menlove, former state representative, educator and administrator from Utah State University, and Dr. DeLaina Tonks, Executive Director of Mountain Heights Academy. 

Are you interested in a third party candidate in the presidential election of 2024? A significant number of Republicans don't support their frontrunner (Trump) and a significant number of Democrats don't support their frontrunner (Biden). Where does this leave us? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asks her guests what their thoughts are on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Sharla Jessop, President of Smedley Financial, Ronda Menlove, former state representative, educator and administrator from Utah State University, and Dr. DeLaina Tonks, Executive Director of Mountain Heights Academy. 

Senator Mitt Romney announced this week that he will not seek reelection to the Senate. In doing so, he taught us how to step off the stage. KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asked her guests about his decision on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Sharla Jessop, President of Smedley Financial, Ronda Menlove, former state representative, educator and administrator from Utah State University, and Dr. DeLaina Tonks, Executive Director of Mountain Heights Academy. 

Recent events involving Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and Senator Dianne Feinstein, not to mention concerns with President Biden's age, prompt the question - should there be an age limit for holding office? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asks her guests about this on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Sally Dietlein, Executive Producer at Hale Center Theater, Cassie Bingham, Assistant Director of the Center for Social Impact at Utah Valley University and Jill Atwood, Senior Communications Strategist for the Department of Veterans Affairs.

K-12 teachers are reporting an increase in absenteeism and behavior problems post-pandemic that they've never seen before. What is going on with students? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asks her guests about this on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Sally Dietlein, Executive Producer at Hale Center Theater, Cassie Bingham, Assistant Director of the Center for Social Impact at Utah Valley University and Jill Atwood, Senior Communications Strategist for the Department of Veterans Affairs.

BYU-Idaho and Ensign College will launch 3-year bachelor's degree programs, cutting 25% of the requirement for classes to graduate. KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asks her guests about this on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Sally Dietlein, Executive Producer at Hale Center Theater, Cassie Bingham, Assistant Director of the Center for Social Impact at Utah Valley University and Jill Atwood, Senior Communications Strategist for the Department of Veterans Affairs.

There are 23 schools in Utah that are on a 4-day school week, many of them in rural areas. Is this a good idea or does it rob the kids of important education? What about the effect this has on parents and child care? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asks her guests about this on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include Sally Dietlein, Executive Producer at Hale Center Theater, Cassie Bingham, Assistant Director of the Center for Social Impact at Utah Valley University and Jill Atwood, Senior Communications Strategist for the Department of Veterans Affairs. 

Fertility rates are going down in many parts of the world, including Utah. We have long had the highest fertility rates in the nation, but no more. What's going on? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asks her guests about this on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include singer and songwriter Cherie Call, Kristin Sokol professional relationship and dating coach, and Sarah Strang, Deputy Director of Crisis Services for the Road Home. 

40% of Republican voters in the 2nd Congressional District contest to replace Representative Chris Stewart say they are undecided. Only a couple of days left to make up your minds. KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asks her guests about this on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include singer and songwriter Cherie Call, Kristin Sokol professional relationship and dating coach, and Sarah Strang, Deputy Director of Crisis Services for the Road Home. 

A new survy from the Boys and Girls Clubs of America talked to 130,000 kids, and 40% said they were bullied on school campus in the last year. Why is there so much physical bullying? Let alone cyber bullying? KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson talks about this with her guests on A Woman's View. Her guests this week include singer and songwriter Cherie Call, Kristin Sokol professional relationship and dating coach, and Sarah Strang, Deputy Director of Crisis Services for the Road Home. 

There was an interesting survey done recently by Monster that asked over 6,000 workers what their biggest pain point is in their jobs. The answer? Micromanagement. KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asked her guests about this on A Woman's View. Her guests this week are Susan Madsen, founder and director of the Utah Women and Leadership Project and the Karen Haight Huntsman endowed professor of leadership in the Huntsman School of Business at Utah State University and Natalie Gochnour, Associate Dean of the David Eccles School of Business and Director of the Kem C. Gardner Policy Institute at the University of Utah. 

We had the first debate this week among Republican candidates for president. The former president and frontrunner, Donald Trump, chose not to participate. KSL Newsradio's Amanda Dickson asked her guests on A Woman's View what their takeaways were from the debate. Her guests this week are Susan Madsen, founder and director of the Utah Women and Leadership Project and the Karen Haight Huntsman endowed professor of leadership in the Huntsman School of Business at Utah State University and Natalie Gochnour, Associate Dean of the David Eccles School of Business and Director of the Kem C. Gardner Policy Institute at the University of Utah.