Bonus episodes that include interviews with Brian Dunseth, Dave Checketts, Kyle Beckerman, Jason Kreis and Pablo Mastroeni.
Bonus Episode 1 | Life after pro sports
Brian Dunseth played for six different MLS clubs over the course of his career including a season with the Real Salt Lake. “Dunny” is one of the most recognizable people in soccer in America. He was the captain of the 2000 U.S. Olympic soccer team and is an MLS analyst for TNT, Apple TV, host on Sirius XM and co-host of the Week in Tackle podcast. In this conversation with Amy Donaldson, Dunny talks about what it was like adjusting to life after professional sports and he reflects on the aftermath when RSL owner Dell Loy Hansen sold the team.
Bonus Episode 2 | The visionary
Dave Checketts was working for the NBA when he fell in love with soccer while traveling in Europe. He decided he wanted to build a club in his home state of Utah, but he had no idea the obstacles and heartache he’d face. This is more of the conversation we had with Checketts on the hurdles he faced building the team and why he had to sell his dream.
Bonus Episode 3 | The Kyle Beckerman interview
There is no player who embodies the culture of Real Salt Lake than Kyle Beckerman. When he was traded from Colorado to Utah in 2007, he instantly changed the culture of RSL’s locker room. He captained the team from 2008 until he retired in 2020. Beckerman has seen the club through its rise to glory – and through its bleakest times. This episode gives you more of his background, his time in Colorado where RSL head coach Pablo Mastroeni became his friend and mentor and what it was like to try and win soccer games when the front office was in chaos.
Bonus Episode 4 | Jason Kreis
When Jason Kreis became the first player signed by Real Salt Lake founder Dave Checketts in November of 2004, he’d never even been to Utah. But 20 years later, it’s difficult to say if Kreis had more of an impact on the club – or if the club – and the community – have had more of an impact on Jason Kreis.
In this bonus episode, Kreis talks about his departure, why he wanted to return to the club, why the culture at RSL is unique, and what he hopes the club means to Utah.
Bonus Episode 5 | The World According to Pablo Mastroeni
Real Salt Lake coach and former player Pablo Mastroeni was able to sit down with Amy on two occasions to talk about his journey and his philosophies on being a coach, being a player and just life in general. One thing that is so good about these two interviews with Pablo, is that his advice and ideas can help anyone who is trying to go somewhere.
Bonus Episode 6 | The Return of the Royals
When Dell Loy Hansen decided to put his soccer holdings up for sale, there was a lot of fear among fans – and speculation amongst the media – that a buyer would take Real Salt Lake, the Monarchs, the Royals and the Academy – and move it anywhere but Utah. As it turned out, on the Royals were at risk. And in early December, the players, coaches and staff got a gut-punch when the Royals were sold back to Kansas City. There was a provision in the sale that gave fans hope. The new owners had an option at an expansion franchise in 2024.
And thanks to Hansen, the team retained the rights to its name, mascot, and colors – its identity. In this podcast, one member of the staff and a player talk us through what it was like to get that call that the team was leaving, and what happened when the team returned in 2024.
Bonus Episode 7 | A complicated legacy
While Amy Donaldson was researching and reporting this podcast, she found Dell Loy Hansen to be one of the most polarizing figures she’d written about in three decades as a journalist.
And it isn’t just that he has vocal critics or ardent supporters it’s that even those who worked closest with him, those who knew him best find it difficult to neatly or easily summarize his impact on professional soccer which, like it or not, extends far beyond Utah and one could argue even the U.S.
Without him, Real Salt Lake might not have become financially stable enough to enjoy those golden years after the MLS Cup championship of 2009. Without him, Checketts may have been forced to sell the team in 2013 to owners who wanted to move it to a bigger market. Without him, the training facilities, The Academy, the Zions Bank Stadium in Herriman – none of that would exist.
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